words "under god" in the pledge of allegiance as if it would met him. i mean, this bizarre stuff. and this guy raised him, and ted cruz credits him with his political outlook. and so i think, of course, it's fair game. >> you know, jonathan, can i gist say something real quickly? >> really fast, jimmy. >> if hillary clinton runs for president, which we all assume she is, will we in the media hold bill clinton to the same regard? that's an excellent question we need to think about. >> we all agree, jimmy. that is a good question. jimmy williams, sam sater, ed hogan, thank you all. we'll be right back. but first, a word of good luck for the departing director of this broadcast, ms. gina fellows. gina is the founding director of the martin bashir show, and has done so much for this network over the past eight years. we wish her, her husband jason, and their adorable son, ethan, only the best. thanks, gina. as a business owner, i'm constantly putting out fires.